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Subject: How good is the Arjun MBT?
angryjohn    1/20/2006 5:30:19 AM
The Indian army has now constructed its own technological terror called the Arjun. Does anyone know how it would do agains the other big MBT's around?
 
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Horsesoldier    RE:How good is the Arjun MBT?   1/20/2006 10:54:51 AM
In terms of a current generation MBT, I'd think they would have been better served by buying some Leo 2A4/5/6, which I think they could have managed. I'm not sure if they could have got a deal for M1s or Challengers 2s due to potential political provocations etc etc etc, but I'd bet the Leo or LeClerc could have found its way into their arsenal. In the longer term it may be a good thing, getting some experience with tank design etc.
 
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Carl S    RE:How good is the Arjun MBT?   1/20/2006 11:17:01 PM
The Indian military seems to prefer that longer view.
 
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ambush    RE:How good is the Arjun MBT?   1/24/2006 2:25:32 PM
The resources might have been better used buying a frieng design, but if they want to develope a domestic tank industry they have to start somewhere. Think of the mismanagment and other problems as learning how not to do it. Politics aside buying and Abrams or Challenger may not be the best idea given their weight and the limitation of India's road network.
 
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PeregrinePike    RE:How good is the Arjun MBT?   1/25/2006 8:38:08 AM
Good points have been raised so far, to add my bit: 1. Only one experimental regiment (and only a few squadrons within it) has Arjun Mk I. That leaves 62 other regiments with T-72s and T-90s. 2. Though the real intention was to replace all T-72s with Arjuns, the lack of a sufficiently powerful domestic engine ended the plans. Pakistani procurment of T-80s from Ukaraine in mid-90s lead to an arms race, and T-90s were bought as a leveling measure. 3. Arjun Mk I's development began back in mid-80s, and many of the design concepts are clearly outdated now. Useful parts of the plan were salavaged as a platform for the Bhim self-propelled artillery. India has moved on to developing Arjun Mk II. 4. As regard to buying Brit/American tanks - a. American tanks dont fit the overall doctrine, and refitting the whole Army to fit the equipment is kinda counter-productive b. India has had some very good experience with British equipment, but Brtis arent/werent too keen on ToT - especially with regard to armour. Arjun Mk I incidentally does use a German engine for the moment.
 
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Bluewings    RE:How good is the Arjun MBT?   3/19/2006 11:34:06 AM
The Arjun is a piece of junk . Sing on the old AC/DC tune : "I 'm a problem tank" ... Cheers .
 
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bunkerdestroyer    RE:How good is the Arjun MBT?   3/19/2006 3:47:09 PM
depending on the gun and the armour type, it remindes me of the leo 2 at its birth...compare it to that, not the latest variant. If the leo 2 can be upgraded umtenth times, then so can the arjun. they just need to fix the automotive problems if they havent already....
 
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SteelGear    RE:How good is the Arjun MBT?   3/19/2006 10:48:38 PM
--they just need to fix the automotive problems if they havent already.... -- Well according to their defence minister...that would be a yes "As is the case with any new production, some snags were pointed out in Arjun tank. One rotator came out from Dhruv. We have rectified the snags and corrections have been done as pointed out by users," http://www.india-defence.com/reports/1470
 
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frombunker    bunker   9/16/2010 3:23:49 PM
All the Major tanks across the world have taken almost over 3 Decades to develop into the suitable fighting Machines. Mekava of Isreal 40 Years, Leopard over 35 years. Chieftain the MBT of Uk is still serving with the most problematic Engine.
The Only problem with the Indian Arjun is lack of commitment from the Indian Army, where the top Notch Experts & Defence Ministry Officials are on a look-out for the  huge amounts of the Kick backs from the Foreign Deals. Isreal has itself testified the Arjun to be an Awesome Fighting Machine.
Which has all these qualities:
 Suspesion System is similar to the French Leclerc Tank, which gives it an agile Moving Capability
Stabilised Gun control system that is at par with the Leopard of Germany
120 mm Rifled Bore in which Britain challanger has its Hit Quality
The Design has incorporated most modern Equipment with the Thermal Imaging & Navigational Systems
The Gun control systems are at par with the Merkava


 
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Heorot       9/26/2010 5:08:12 PM

All the Major tanks across the world have taken almost over 3 Decades to develop into the suitable fighting Machines. Mekava of Isreal 40 Years, Leopard over 35 years. Chieftain the MBT of Uk is still serving with the most problematic Engine.

The Only problem with the Indian Arjun is lack of commitment from the Indian Army, where the top Notch Experts & Defence Ministry Officials are on a look-out for the  huge amounts of the Kick backs from the Foreign Deals. Isreal has itself testified the Arjun to be an Awesome Fighting Machine.


Which has all these qualities:


 Suspesion System is similar to the French Leclerc Tank, which gives it an agile Moving Capability

Stabilised Gun control system that is at par with the Leopard of Germany

120 mm Rifled Bore in which Britain challanger has its Hit Quality


The Design has incorporated most modern Equipment with the Thermal Imaging & Navigational Systems

The Gun control systems are at par with the Merkava





you're as behind the times as the Arjun. The Chieftain went out of UK service in 1995. That's 15 years ago if you can't count!
 
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