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Subject: Recoiless Rifle on Bradleys?
Stormhammer    3/5/2012 5:50:39 PM
Would it be feasible to mount a recoiless rifle in place of the TOW launcher on Bradleys? Marrying an improved rangefinder and sighting system to it to optimize accuracy, what kind of effective range would it have? It would bound to be cheaper than a TOW, and to be honest we're really not facing to many frontline tanks that make it neccesary to have the bradley's be equipped with TOWs, and I imagine it would be relatively simple to have rounds for a 105-106 mm recoiless such as thermobolic, squash heads, WP or cannister.
 
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WarNerd       3/7/2012 2:36:05 PM
Would it be feasible to mount a recoiless rifle in place of the TOW launcher on Bradleys? Marrying an improved rangefinder and sighting system to it to optimize accuracy, what kind of effective range would it have? It would bound to be cheaper than a TOW, and to be honest we're really not facing to many frontline tanks that make it neccesary to have the bradley's be equipped with TOWs, and I imagine it would be relatively simple to have rounds for a 105-106 mm recoiless such as thermobolic, squash heads, WP or cannister.
Depends on you definition of feasible.  The TOW launcher does not have a system for adjusting elevation, so maximum effective range would be 250m, assuming a 1m drop.  Even if you design an elevation mechanism the long breach aft of the trunnions will severely limit elevation. Reloading is a problem for the same reason, you would probably have to lock the turret forward, then have someone open a roof hatch in the troop area to manually reload it. Warhead is about 1/3 the weight, in the same range as an RPG-7.
 
All the ammunition types you list were available at some point except the thermobaric.
 
I often wondered why they did not make a round that mounted 3 or 4 70mm rockets in a TOW missile tube for the same prupose. I suspect that it is because the guidance system (or at least many old ones still in service) is not programmable, possibly not even digital.
 
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HeavyD       4/5/2012 11:29:36 AM
The no-brainer solution would be to mount 84mm Carl Gustavs where the TOWs are.  Elevation would be provided by a simple electric screw motor.
 
1000 meters (depending on cross-wind) is the range of shoulder-fired Gustavs/AT4s by an experienced gunner, the stability of a turret mount should easily equal this.
 
Reloading is relatively easy:  the round is compact and light.  Some crew exposure is required but the vehicle can provide suppressive cover, smoke or can withdraw a short distance.  Additional shielding could be developed if this is an issue.
 
You get a nice direct-fire punch for creating breaches, taking on strongpoints, all while leveraging existing weapons and ammunition.  Waaay cheaper than a bunker-busting TOW.
 
No Brainer. 
 
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WarNerd       4/5/2012 6:44:48 PM
The no-brainer solution would be to mount 84mm Carl Gustavs where the TOWs are.  Elevation would be provided by a simple electric screw motor.
 
1000 meters (depending on cross-wind) is the range of shoulder-fired Gustavs/AT4s by an experienced gunner, the stability of a turret mount should easily equal this.
 
Reloading is relatively easy:  the round is compact and light.  Some crew exposure is required but the vehicle can provide suppressive cover, smoke or can withdraw a short distance.  Additional shielding could be developed if this is an issue.
 
You get a nice direct-fire punch for creating breaches, taking on strongpoints, all while leveraging existing weapons and ammunition.  Waaay cheaper than a bunker-busting TOW.
 
No Brainer. 
Mount it on the roof so the breach extends just past the back of the turret (also provide easy access for reloading) then control the elevation using a pantograph device attached to the main gun. I think I saw something similar that the Russians did something similar at one point.
 
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